love is love
I found this little video clip on another blog I read (can’t remember which one it was now) and I thought it was really interesting. It goes into detail on what the bible actually says about homosexuality, from some pretty well respected Rabbis, Reverends and other scholars. Plus, it shows an awesome clip from The West Wing too, one of my favorite shows of all time.
I don’t know why anyone would be against a person loving another person, no matter what gender. The reason most people give is that “the Bible” is against it. Well, basically, the bible “said” a lot of things were off limits, including eating shrimp and working on the sabbath and a whole bunch of other “rules” that most people have no problem breaking today. Now, I personally don’t necessarily believe that the bible is all that accurate in the first place, more like a “my cousin’s best friend’s uncle’s step-sister’s hair dresser told me….” type of thing that has been re-told and translated so often it’s hard to say that what we know as the Bible is actually how it was meant to be read. And, you can’t really pick and choose what parts to follow and what parts to not follow. Anyhow - watch and enjoy…
Pretty interesting stuff, huh? I don’t know why this has been on my mind lately, maybe because of the whole Prop 8 thing in California, and the recent coming out of a fellow mommy blogger internet friend. But I thought that clip was worth sharing.
I just want to say that I think it is ridiculous that some people are against using the word “marriage” for a same sex couple. How does that make my marriage any less valid or loving? If a drunk 18 year old can get married to a stranger in Vegas at the drop of a hat (and then get a quickie divorce or annulment) , I think conservatives should be more concerned with THAT ruining the sanctity of marriage, rather than a loving same sex couple who has been in a committed relationship for years.
Who cares who you love, as long as you love. God knows we could use a whole lot more love in this world.
It isn’t a matter of rights. It is a matter of values. In the ancient times, homosexuality was practiced, mostly by the nobility. Wives were merely “baby makers” and men had their fun with other men. When God said this was wrong, he was demanding a higher value for the wife, and making man realize that he was to value the sexual nature of his wife. A lesbian relationship devalues the need for a man in a family. A gay relationship devalues the woman’s role in a family. Gays in California have civil unions which allow them all the legal rights of married couples, but without devaluing the word marriage as a religious sacrament, which it is for many. We cannot
keep devaluing things that made this country great.
Comment by Auntie Paule — October 30, 2008 @ 10:20 pm
Hmmm - interesting point AP - I agree that marriage started out about values - but I don’t believe it was about personal or moral values, it was really about monetary or property values. Women were seen as the property of men and marriages were arranged for merely the purpose of providing heirs to the men’s family and continuing their name. As you said women’s only “value” was to bear children and were quickly cast aside if they could not do that. I think we have come a long way now that marriage is based on LOVE and can be entered into willingly by 2 consenting adults - no matter what race or economic status - something that was unheard of until very recently. We have changed our views on marriage as we have grown as a nation and people and we need to value equal rights for everybody. As recently as 1998 - South Carolina finally changed its constitutional laws forbidding “marriage of a white person with a Negro or mulatto or a person who should have one-eighth or more Negro blood.”
Doesn’t it seem silly now to have race be a factor in marriage? I think we all need to come into the 21st century and have equal rights for ALL - marriage is a union between 2 people who love each other. There should be no other stipulation than that. Calling it something else is like having 2 separate water fountains - the whole “separate but equal” thing doesn’t really work. I don’t believe it devalues my role as a woman to have 2 men married. Just as it doesn’t devalue my role as a mother to have women going to work and men staying home and acting as primary caregiver. People don’t play traditional “roles” anymore, and LOVE should be the only factor in a relationship. You got married because you love your husband, not for any other reason - right? So, does it change your love or your marriage just because Bob and Dan can get married too? Does it change how your husband values you as a person?
Comment by Administrator — November 5, 2008 @ 4:26 pm
I am not talking about personal values, or how it affects me. I am talking about a nation and its values, and how it affects all the people, adults and children. I am not saying gays cannot be allowed to love one another, or be joined in a civil union, for legal benefits. But I know we will never agree, so lets agree to disagree. I also feel abortion devalues life, and that is another area where we disagree. I think the choice is whether or not to have unprotected sex, casual sex, etc. That is the choice. All God’s children are precious. Each argument has a side, and you and I are on opposing sides. That makes the world interesting, anyway. I love you and yours with all my heart.
( sorry to hear the news about Billie and Bill Joe… they are in my prayers.)
Comment by Auntie Paule — November 6, 2008 @ 12:23 am
Love you too AP and I am so glad you come on here regularly to catch up on my life and you keep everyone else in the family informed too. It is great that we can keep in touch somewhat with everyone’s busy lives. Give Aunt Tina and Grandmama and Loretta and everyone else my love
. I hope we can come out for a visit soon and you can meet my adorable kids in person!
xoxo
chels
Comment by Administrator — November 17, 2008 @ 9:58 am